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30 September 2010 @ 09:19 pm
A plea for help. Sort of.  
A friend posted something on his Facebook about raising the tax on cigarettes to $100 per pack. When I argued that this amounted to basically, a tax on a life choice you don't agree with, he responded with this. (Emphasis mine)


It's not a personal choice when it affects other people. I walk through plenty of smoke every day to get to my classes because people want to kick the crap out of their own lungs, why should i suffer because of their choices? [...]

It is also not wrong to have laws to prevent individuals from doing certain things to their bodies.[...] it is illegal to shoot up heroin even though there is no chance of second hand shooting up.

So yes it is wrong for me to have to breath that crap because some people want to kick the crap out of their own lungs. [...] Besides the point of the tax is that people who are addicted can stay addicted. Addicts will no doubt pay the surcharge, that's why it is called addiction, they have lost their personal choice. [...]


This is not a post to debate the tax on cigarettes. Or even smoking itself. The point is he is a self-identified liberal democrat and I have no idea how he can think an argument such as this is okay. Short of spamming him with bitch plz gifs, I have no idea how to respond to this. Any ideas would be appreciated
Current Mood: enragedenraged
ext_279153 on October 8th, 2010 07:47 pm (UTC)
Taxes and guns
Here's the picture I'd paint for someone who is completely comfortable with most if not all public tax policy on behavior: Imagine every single line item in the tax code (local, state, federal, whatever) as a gun pointing at the payer. Because that's what taxes are. They are guns pointing at people, saying "pay me motherfucker". Now reasonable people can argue whether or it's right or wrong to point guns at people and say things like that. However, it is insane *not* to see taxation as exactly this. So, paint this picture for your friend and say, "will you point your gun at me until I open my purse because I smoke?". And, if they aren't willing to do that on a personal scale, they are evil and wrong to want to do that on a society scale.
susiuser on April 14th, 2011 03:36 am (UTC)
great post as usual!